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[Commander]

        Okay, I guess this started way back when NH was started and was set up with its form of government.... I feel like I can openly talk to you guys of just about anything now since I've known you for so long now, so I will: I've been confused since the beginning of NH to now about intangir's and savannah's political views... I thought I knew, but I'm second guessing myself now and hope this will clear things up.
I think we all know intangir and savannah are founders and managers of NH... and I just viewed Ravine City's book and shows savannah as a manager of said city. This stumps me... Are you two anarchists or not?... for government or not for it, which is it.
I'm not saying you can't have a city with laws and guidelines and such, just confused.
Hope you can help me. 

[Shaman]

Intangir seems to be. I don't think SM is even in the ballpark though. I have a feeling that she's the type to measure your lawn and count your dandelions. I also find her obsessive construction of shopping space that will never be filled kind of disturbing.... in a Keynesian housing bubble sort of way.

[SavanahMile]

Hey commander, First of all I found Ravine city, but most everything in it is Brainlesszombie5, glad you could tell there is a difference, and that is why you are confused, it is not me, the glass ceilings that is me, everything else is Brainlesszombie5.   I saw some new signs near the entrance, personally it looked like most of his book was borrowed from the NH, but with his personal twist.
Simon_the_digger wrote up the book and design of New Haven, not Intangir, he located the town, and when we were all fleeing from elefetheria, Simon, Aly and I originally went with him, and Intangir, NH is an experiment, no one forces anyone to build there, That's why you founded the cool Dragon's Perch, maybe you can help him, I was hoping to see Akira Ravine turn into another Underground city, with an Atlantis twist.

Sign...Now to comment on Shaman's many slanders that I fed up with.  Shaman is constantly instigating conflict with me.  Commander you can read past logs, I have taken more abuse from this Fuck-tard than I ever would any other person on the planet, but there is no pleasing this obviously unhappy soul, so now you get to know how I feel Shaman, as you take EVERY DAM chance to POST a jab at me on Intangir's site no less, continuously instigating nonsense at me, AND EVERYONE SEES IT, Masterful tried to reason with you, and you SHUT UP, and same when SIMON pointed it out last time, what about Lupecake commented on your sub-par build, nothing derogatory to him, but you don't stop personally attacking, name calling or just investigating nonsense at me, you must think I am weak like you.  HELL NO!  I can't keep feeling sorry for someone who keeps attacking me!

Now write up the same nonsense about Brainlesszombie5 Shaman, I dare you as he apparently designed the "obsessive construction of shopping space that will never be filled kind of disturbing..."  Not me in Akia Ravine.  That was Brainlesszombie5 make sure you tell him, we both know you won't, and it did not stop you from claiming a spot in Akira after you read his book and apparently agreed to it, or will you just take the land and not follow his rules.

"Intangir seems to be. I don't think SM is even in the ballpark though. I have a feeling that she's the type to measure your lawn and count your dandelions. I also find her obsessive construction of shopping space that will never be filled kind of disturbing.... in a Keynesian housing bubble sort of way."  
You don't know anything about me.   Yes I trade with people and make places so others can freely trade, and Shaman you turd, I don't like liars like you, and wanna be Shaman, you live in Ohio, not Japan!  In the real world you are a pathetic Jerk who thinks he can continuously slander and ride my ass. Let me tell you about Japanese people, they have a code of honor WHICH you don't, you are not ethical in anyway.  You contradict yourself frequently.  You live in your own make believe world, and  irl i'm sure too bro, I'm done with you!   I have tried over and over to be nice to you since Intangir owns this server but you keep poking the bear you piss-ant!  I have never had anyone be such a flaming hemorrhoid to me as you are,  I am SICK OF YOU and your constant whining and stupid projects. Don't push your life guilt on me, because I am a female!   "I'm building a new rail to the fore-corners of the world, come see the shitty cobble boxes I built!" (smelt some dam stone for a change you cheap shit) while I leave my shitty eyesore in NH just to be an Asssss, because I think I am bothering Savanah and want to try to blackmail Savanah over it, and you got called out by Simon on it, with AGAIN NO COMMENT to Simon.   Nothing to say to Simon?   right..   Shaman you have called me so many communistic names, you are NOT an Anarchist, you don't respect property rights, so get over it!  First time Commander saw your cobble box crap in NH he asked if you were KOS, as he thought you griefed the place, which in essence you have.

[Intangir]

to clarify, simon founded new haven, it is a voluntary membership city, it has rules, they are voluntary. brainless built ravine city for the most part, i am not sure what his book says cause ive never read it, never been there, never built there, have nothing to do with it


anarchy means no rulers, not no rules, voluntarily agreeing to another persons terms doesn't make them your ruler

shaman: as far as building shop space that no one will use, everyone does that, everyone builds houses they can't really live in, everyone likes to build cities that aren't really cities.. its the way the game works, people like to build things that represent real life social constructs which are nothing like actual real life social constructs, (like flying roads of mismatched cobble and random woods that cars can never drive on) its part of the fun. It is hypocritical to point it out in situations of shops (that half a dozen others have built) but to ignore the same behavior in your own (and others) empty 'cities'

trying to relate it to keynesian bubbles is straight out of no where.. completely unrelated

i have tried to calm down the situation between shaman and savanah by telling both of them to just let the other be, but shaman .. why are you instigating a fight, is any of your commentary on savanah that related to what he asked?

no

[Commander]

       Yes I know it's completely voluntary, that's why I said "form of government", but with rules comes someone to empower them, "MANAGERS: Simon_the_Digger, Intangir_V, SavannahMile."

       

[SavanahMile]

You are talking about Akira Ravine, right?  Commander it could really use your experience in managing and creating an underground city, I think Brain would welcome it, with the right molding it could be something really awesome.  I personally envisioned where lake Sexy Zombie is as being the more like the center of the ravine and really build out that end with cool water walls and ceilings like old Atlantis.  I have claimed that end to do that kind of expansion.  What are your thoughts Commander specifically?

[Commander]

        I was talking about NH specifically in my last comment.
I may help Akira, I need to check out where everything's at though, first. It takes forever to ride the railway station to places like Shroomica and New Oasis. I miss the nether, travel was way faster there.

[SavanahMile]

I miss the stargates

[Shaman]

I hadn't considered akira. I was thinking of that shopping mall in the middle of nowhere with the redstone blocks that says something to the effect of "savanah's shopping mall". And you put it right where I announced I was going to put a little shop along the rail. It's like getting ready to build a farmer's market and bloody walmart (with mostly empty shelves and only one cashier) gets the permit for your spot.

[SavanahMile]

Oh yeah RIGHT!!!!!!!!       This is the first I have heard of it, and most likely a lie since that is all I get from you, you know you would need to claim it, You didn't say anything about Simon's midway station this is you AGAIN trying to give me shit and make others feel sorry for you, trying to make me look liek I took something from you when there was nothing there when I built, I told everyone, but nice change of tactic!  Not buying what your selling, sorry!  but WHATEVER, I don't care, this is a long time coming.  Just STOP even saying my name or referring to me at all I am DONE WITH YOU.

[anoddhue]

CALL FORTH THE BANNERS

[Shaman]

[ author=SavanahMile link=topic=2561.msg17632#msg17632 date=1371775488]
Oh yeah RIGHT!!!!!!!!       This is the first I have heard of it, and most likely a lie since that is all I get from you, [/]

I've never lied even a single time on this forum nor even a single time in chat on minecraft. As an atheist, you probably can't understand the desire to please one's Gods... But mine value honesty above all else. I would not jeopardize my relationship with them over something as infinitesimally important as your opinion of me.


[ author=SavanahMile link=topic=2561.msg17632#msg17632 date=1371775488]
you know you would need to claim it, You didn't say anything about Simon's midway station this is you AGAIN
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I had no plans for a shop at Simon's station, it's an irrelevant issue. I did announce that I was going to build a shop at my junction leading to Yomi. I was delayed for a day and when I got there, your shopping mall was in its spot. I can't help but to feel like you did it on purpose as revenge for not building something you felt was pretty in NH. (Mosaic will be built later.)

[ author=SavanahMile link=topic=2561.msg17632#msg17632 date=1371775488]
trying to give me shit and make others feel sorry for you, trying to make me look liek I took something from you when there was nothing there when I built, I told everyone, but nice change of tactic!  Not buying what your selling, sorry!  but WHATEVER, I don't care, this is a long time coming.  
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If I was hypothetically trying to do anything to make you look bad, you would eclipse it yourself with these hysterics and abuse of the English language.

I don't expect anyone to feel bad for me at all. This game doesn't really matter enough to me to sit and calculate my responses as you insinuate. This game is completely inconsequential. If Intangir told you about my childhood, I suppose I could see where you're coming from, but I told him that in confidence, and still have the expectation of privacy in that matter.

You seem like a good person even if your tendencies irk me and our personalities are utterly incompatible. I can tell you're good because Locke seems happy and energetic. I'll do you the favor of not comparing you to my parents.

I suppose if there are rules, there must also be enforcers. As much as I butt heads with J. Neil Schulman when I'm around him, he does have a point about using market pressure to enforce the rules. If you don't like my work, you're welcome to avoid trading with me.

As far as the enforcement goes when you do it vs when someone else does it:

You tend to serve a notice written officiously as if to evict. Others tend to say "Hey dude, I think this is an error over here... do you mind fixing it?" It's a completely different approach. You may not mean to say it that way, but that's how it comes out. It reads just like the notices I used to get from a corrupt city official in a town I used to live in who would go out after every thunderstorm and measure my grass before I could get around to mowing it (which I still do with a weed-eater for lack of a lawnmower). Maybe that's the reason I don''t like you very much.

So far, you look like a statist to me. If you want me to change my opinion, you'll have prove me wrong. Of course you don't have to at all, but I do often change my mind about something if someone makes a logical argument that I can't refute.



[ author=SavanahMile link=topic=2561.msg17632#msg17632 date=1371775488]
Just STOP even saying my name or referring to me at all I am DONE WITH YOU.
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I don't know if anyone has told you SAVANAH, but you won't really get good results telling anti-authority types what to do. I think they just tried that in Turkey, Syria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt...

As for being done, I thought we already agreed to ignore each other before you went on that rant?

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CALL FORTH THE BANNERS
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[SavanahMile]

You are so full of it!  You are a liar, I am done with you.  I could give a shit about your opinion, your a liar.        PISS OFF

[Simon_Jeeha]

this is still going on?

i am pretty sure I dug the tunnels and laid the rail up at the Y value where she built her shops

so i technically homesteaded that tunnel

you took parts off of my rail when you branched your way off from my line but i didn't complain

this is a completely pointless conflict and it has gone on forever

i'd offer to be a neutral third party arbitrator but from what is already painfully obvious shaman is just being completely ridiculous and spiteful or is trolling

just drop it, and take down that cobblestone mess you left in new haven for your imaginary friend

[Intangir]

shaman what exactly is your problem?
every time you post you bring up new and completely out of left field complaints and criticisms about savanah and i am not sure what it is she did that is sooo bad in the first place

is this all because she wanted you to follow the new haven charter for your new haven constructions? cause we let you slide on alot of things, and she personally protected your bridge support struts from being torn down by simon

what exactly IS your problem? are you capable of explaining your problem without leaping between out of context insults, economics references, and religious beliefs?

this is beyond the point of pushing my patience, i don't want you to use my board for baseless accusations, trolling, and flaming. so if you don't actually have any claims for damages, then i don't want to hear any more comments about savanah. period