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Title: Justice Council!
Post by: Simon_Jeeha on August 02, 2014, 03:32:44 am
The Justice Council is hereby created!

The purpose of the Justice council is to secure justice throughout the land. Pursuits include capturing and holding griefers, mediating disputes, overseeing restitution, and determining the threat level of past griefers.

With the help of intangir, savanah and bengtl we have created a pearl vault which should be practically impenetrable to any who would grief these beautiful lands. Let it be known to any who would challenge the justice council by griefing the fair inhabitants of these lands:

Justice will be swift, and unavoidable.

The only way to regain your liberty if you are caught griefing is to attempt to restore whatever damages you have caused to the satisfaction of all those you have wronged AND to renounce your griefing ways and hope that we believe you are sincere.

Those chosen to be members of the council are those found to be highly trustworthy, highly capable,  to have a strong sense of justice, and found to have a strong interest in the cause of justice.

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The current membership changes over time so follow the thread for those details:
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If you are interested in joining feel free to reply on this thread. To join you should be well geared (in diamond at least), should have your own pearls, should be capable of apprehending griefers, and should understand the philosophy behind restorative justice.

All pearls in the custody of the Justice Council vaults are held and/or released according to the principles of restorative justice, not held arbitrarily or out of spite or vengeance.

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Anyone who joins must allow any prisoners they currently hold to pursue their release by these same terms (change of ways, restitution) and should also move their pearls into the shared vault.

The reason for the shared vault is so even if you are not active anyone you have pearled may still have a chance at release according to these terms and so other members can oversea reparation in the event they must be summoned somewhere to fix something while you are not online.

Again, as an active member you are expected to store pearls of those you capture in the vault and to only remove them to either help facilitate reparation by summoning them where they need to go to fix or repay something, or to release them when they are cleared. Any other removal of pearls from the vault, to hide them, to evade justice, or to renege on the terms you agreed to will be seen as theft and fraud and you will be kicked out of the council.
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If you are imprisoned by the justice council and wish to pursue your release simply post a thread on these forums asking all those who you have wronged to claim damages and to list their terms for your release. Publicly declare that you will no longer behave in such a way and that you will only interact with others and their property in a mutually voluntary manner.

If their terms are reasonable and you are able to comply with them. Then upon a determination that you are no longer a reasonable threat you will be released. Any further transgressions will be met with swift recapture. Repeated abuses will result in it being very unlikely that you will be given more chances.

Let Justice Be Done!


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on August 02, 2014, 07:54:14 am
My thoughts are people will say anything to be free.  If we have other information that would show their lack of insincerity how do we handle that?  


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: rykalicious on August 02, 2014, 09:48:03 am
     First of all I would like to extend my request to join the Justice Council. I'm fully geared, have been playing on this server since v1, and would like to think as myself as a trusted player. Now my thoughts on these griefers. As Savanah said, people will say whatever they need to in order to be released. They will act like they are sorry and and that they feel remorse for what they did, but it is all a mask. We trusted these people with the location of our homes and helped them survive in what can be a harsher minecraft environment than most servers, and they repaid our trust with theft and destruction. Once there is a dent in someones honesty, I will have trouble trusting them ever again. Those are just my thoughts and I will obviously yield to the collective opinion, but just know that if these people are released, than they WILL continue stealing and griefing until we repearl them.
     On a lighter note, I would like to say that that pearl vault is stellar haha. Good job simon.
-Ryker


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: The_Shanghai_Kid on August 02, 2014, 01:20:56 pm
I think the best way I can contribute to a healthy community is to remain an independent mediator. One of my main skills is getting people who disagree to communicate with each other, stick to the facts, and focus on solutions. If people disagree with something this group does, there needs to be at least one person everyone trusts to act as an impartial third party. This also applies to internal disagreements. Also, there's the more practical fact that I don't know how much time I commit.


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Intangir on August 02, 2014, 01:33:27 pm
Think of it more as other people who share your interests and share some facilities to achive those interests, not a collective, no individuals should be held accountable for the actions of other individuals anyway

the council won't give orders, it just has a common goal, so no one should be blamed for orders, nor should they abdicate their personal responsibility


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: TestificateTom on August 02, 2014, 10:27:14 pm
i would like to join once i get geared up


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Intangir on August 03, 2014, 09:39:29 pm
im cool with ryker joining


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Simon_Jeeha on August 04, 2014, 12:19:48 am
rykalicious has joined us

he has taken the solemn oath and is steadfast TO JUSTICE!


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: vbelac on August 04, 2014, 02:27:46 am
Wait, there was an oath?


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Crimson_Luna on September 28, 2014, 07:49:17 pm
i need help, i am being hunted by savanah and jonin for no apparant reason

they call me a liar when they are liars and they are threatening me when they don't even have anything to gain by it

i tried to settle with the guy who i supposedly wronged, but he doesn't even care, he just wants me to suffer

the details are here:
http://mc.intangir.org/index.php?topic=2840.msg19079#msg19079

please help me, i just want to enjoy some gaming but if people want to start wars, ill war back



Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Crimson_Luna on September 28, 2014, 08:01:56 pm
i also have logs of savanah and jonin flat out lying

wolve flat out saying he doesn't care about the item

logs of them rejecting repayment

and TONS of logs of them insulting , talking down to me, cussing at me, using condescending terms, telling me to shut up, and more

ryka trying to trick me

and im not even sure that this wolve15 is the same as from last night, is his normal name wolve 15 or is it something else?


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on September 28, 2014, 08:40:08 pm
Again this is not accurate. Interesting you found this post.

Your a tricky one.  O.O


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Igloosnowbal on November 22, 2014, 11:36:06 pm
Hello, I am Igloosnowbal. I would like to join the Justice Council, it sounds like it would be fun to be in. I am in full diamond armor I have been playing for a while now (No I did not just join this month) Savanah I   
think told me about it it sounds good for if I ever catch someone to store it in the vault.


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Jonin420 on December 15, 2014, 09:52:16 pm
i wanna join ihave badass equipment and im gonna hunt griefers down either way :P
and I like to think I play fair


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Simon_Jeeha on December 15, 2014, 10:32:39 pm
Welcome jonin and igloo to the justice council

may reason prevail!



Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Igloosnowbal on December 15, 2014, 10:52:31 pm
yay


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on December 21, 2014, 07:28:33 am
Welcome new justice leagers.  I did not know if Simon has posted anything about this, but the vault is not a playground, I ONLY go in there to place a pearl that's it.  I do not touch pearls others have placed. Sometimes pearls can glitch with too much handling, so in our best interest to leave a pearl be.  Now if someone was wrongly pearled, we need to make sure that is the real case, so do not free any pearls without the group talking about it and us all seeing PROOF that that the person is truly pearled for no reason.  So with that said you don't go running around pearling new noob players that hit you at spawn.  Just kill them first see if they calm down if they truly attack you and will not stop.  I would never tell someone to not defend themselves, and Vampires are at the greatest risk from new players as they have wooden swords. :-o

Even conan stopped greating new players because of this.


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Simon_Jeeha on May 04, 2015, 08:14:48 pm
Jonin is out of the justice council

he lied about me several times, said it was all about me, acted like i set the terms

go ahead and look at the last edited date of the first post on this thread, it hasn't changed

its the same damn terms, the same damn rules, which he agreed to and voluntarily accepted

then he broke the rules, violated the terms he accepted, and looted the property of the council

he has stolen the property of the justice council and in my opinion is guilty of a serious crime

he has lied and defrauded both me and the terms of the council

looted property, and openly admits he would rather people quit than be given a chance at justice

he has violated the spirit, and the property of the justice council


he even explicitly said he doesn't want to be in the 'simon council' even though he agreed to the damn terms, it isn't based on my opinion, it is based on restorative justice, which he agreed to previously, and now apparently fears..



Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Simon_Jeeha on May 04, 2015, 08:15:33 pm
Commander is also out of the council

he never officially joined, he was made an honorary member and has never actually obeyed the rules and i don't think he actually ever has even read the rules

if he wants to join he is welcome to, but he will have to follow the rules



Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Jonin420 on May 04, 2015, 08:42:39 pm
I quit lol whos wants to be in a council with a dictator


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Simon_Jeeha on May 04, 2015, 08:45:21 pm
there you go again, more lying



Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on May 04, 2015, 08:53:39 pm
Okay it takes a lot to create these things time effort,
as the person everyone hates in OC, yeah some times you gotta be the jerk to stand your ground.
he did create a group, you did ask to join, I am not sure if everyone understood all the rules, i did not know it was mandatory to put all pearls in I thought it was just a safe place for us to put them,
which is fine by me i have no secure vault of my own.  And that was the reason for the vault because commander who usually has the most secure vaults is not on as much anymore.  This way multiple people have access for unjustly pearled people, or those who work something out.  So there was a NEED for a Vault and Simon did not want to be Simon's vault he wanted to share this with others, I kicked in a lot on the build of the vault, so did several players.  Of course it is easier for us all to criticize than it is to create.  I am thankful that there is this vault cause I need one for OC.



Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Simon_Jeeha on May 05, 2015, 06:34:23 pm
Ok i made a few edits to the original post to clarify some details that apparently weren't clear enough

anyone who wants to remain in the council that hasn't already backed out needs to reconfirm that they understand the rules

as of now, the only ones who are comfirmed are:

Simon (the Digger)
Intangir

LordRagnarock (Lynch) and i think zombienerd may also soon join
just going to comfirm the new details with them first


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: zombienerd on May 05, 2015, 06:45:40 pm
[ author=Simon_Jeeha link=topic=2797.msg19728#msg19728 date=1430872463]
Ok i made a few edits to the original post to clarify some details that apparently weren't clear enough

anyone who wants to remain in the council that hasn't already backed out needs to reconfirm that they understand the rules

as of now, the only ones who are comfirmed are:

Simon (the Digger)
Intangir

LordRagnarock (Lynch) and i think zombienerd may also soon join
just going to comfirm the new details with them first

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Good clarifications.  I would like to join the council if you'll have me.  I agree to the terms.

The mechanics and such for Meiva still need to be figured out, but that's out of our hands for now :)


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on May 06, 2015, 05:08:09 am
I would like to reconfirm.
I thought I already did but did not see my name mentioned.





Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: JohnLennon1997 on May 06, 2015, 05:53:27 pm
I wish to reconfirm also.


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on May 10, 2015, 07:47:14 am
I would vouch for the following players, they have not initiated issues with other players, they are helpful, and and asset to the server.

LordRagnaRock - I think he is a level headed person who trys to see the big picture.
Zombienerd - Switzerland  enough said  ahahha ( your not geared up on AF server, I can help with that )
JohnLennon - Helpful player to other and new players.


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: Igloosnowbal on May 10, 2015, 07:57:42 am
I can help with Zombienerd on AF too. I like him :D


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on May 10, 2015, 11:15:36 am
Lets us know what you will need


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: zombienerd on May 10, 2015, 07:55:45 pm
I've got basic iron armor there, but have a decent diamond sword and a few diamonds to keep it fixed.  I have a large castle compound behind the Imperial Keep. 

I was playing there for a few weeks before Meiva came online and I hopped over :)

I'd graciously accept a decent set of Enchanted Diamond Armor there, if there's an unused set laying around.  I think I'm set on everything else.


Title: Re: Justice Council! On AF and Surveying
Post by: SavanahMile on May 14, 2015, 02:25:51 pm
On AF and Surveying


Title: Re: Justice Council!
Post by: SavanahMile on May 18, 2015, 10:19:16 am
Simon will members be the same on both worlds?  some players are more geared up one world than another.